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Podcast: The Political Orphanage with Andrew Heaton

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A month or two ago, I went on a podcast called The Political Orphanage with Andrew Heaton to have what Andrew called a "literary tailgating party", and discuss both The Rational Optimist and my upcoming book How Innovation Works. Listen on Apple Podcasts I thought it was a really good interview, and enjoyed it so much we went on for more than an hour.

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